AKC HERDING EARTHDOG, COURSING DELEGATE COMMITTEE
Minutes of September 11, 2006 Meeting

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The meeting of the AKC Herding, Earthdog, Coursing Delegate Committee was called to order at 9:00 AM by Committee Chair Gerard Baudet on Monday, September 11, 2006 at the Sheraton Newark Airport Hotel, Newark, NJ.

Present: Don Adams; Karen Arends, Secretary; Gerard Baudet, Chairman; Genie Bishop; Dr John Fitzpatrick; Judy Hart; Bob LaBerge; John McNabney; Maria Sacco; Karen Staudt-Cartabona; Steve Gladstone, AKC Board Liaison; Pat Scully, AKC Board Liaison; and Bill Speck, AKC Staff Liaison.

Guests:
Carl Ashby, U.S. Kerry Blue Terrier Club
Jaimie Ashby, Carolina Kennel Club
J. Lehr Brisbin, Staffordshire Terrier Club of America
Crecia Closon, Lakes Region Kennel Club
Curt Curtis, AKC Staff
Cathy Diener Farrell, Riverhead Kennel Club
Carol Fisher, Valley Forge Kennel Club
Claudia J. Frank, Border Collie Society of America
Leon Goetz, U.S. Australian Shepherd Association
Richard Lewis, Yakima Valley Kennel Club
Dave Merriam, Duluth Kennel Club / AKC Board of Directors
Bob Nazak, Old Dominion K.C. of Virginia
Kaye Nuzenski, Galveston County Kennel Club
Nick Pisias, Chintimini Kennel Club
Marg Pough, Finger Lakes Kennel Club
Jim Primmer, Portland Dog Obedience Club
Patty Sample, Anderson Obedience Training Club
Phil Sample, Anderson Kennel Club

Sign-in sheets were passed and committee members and guests introduced themselves.

Minutes: Carol Fisher, Valley Forge Kennel Club, attended the June 12, 2006 H-E-C Committee Meeting, but did not sign the Guest List. MOTION to approve the minutes of the June 12, 2006 Herding-Earthdog-Coursing Committee as amended above – Bob LaBerge – 2nd John Fitzpatrick. Motion approved – unanimous.

Correspondence: There was no correspondence from outside the H-E-C Committee since our last meeting.

Chair’s Report: Gerard reported that he attended a breakfast meeting for the Combined Committees and would let us know more on that later in the meeting. He suggested that the agenda be amended to have the U.S. Kerry Blue Terrier Club’s presentation by Carl Ashby first. Judy Hart mentioned that the issue of allowing a new breed to compete in an existing performance event needed to be addressed in order to know whether this presentation needs to be made to the H-E-C Committee or just to AKC Staff. It was decided to present these two issues out of order from the agenda.

Unfinished Business:

Policy to Allow a “New” Breed to Compete in an Existing Performance Event:
Following discussion between this committee, Bill Speck and Steve Gladstone, it was decided that it is reasonable for the H-E-C Committee to review requests by breed clubs wishing to participate in performance events. It is felt that this procedure will provide helpful information to AKC Staff and the AKC Board through the H-E-C Committee members’ personal knowledge of these events.

Pat Scully mentioned that the more knowledge this committee gives in an advisory capacity, the better chance an issue has with the Board of Directors.

Bill Speck voiced his concern that this procedure might cause a delay in approvals.

Steve Gladstone mentioned that it is fairly obvious Bill understands what the committee is looking for, and it is his job to review information presented and present it to the Board.

Judy Hart asked for confirmation that once a breed is approved to participate in an existing performance event, that parent club will automatically be approved to hold those events. Bill Speck confirmed that this is the procedure.

New Business:

Kerry Blue Terriers in Herding:
The U.S. Kerry Blue Terrier Club presented an excellent program on Kerry Blue Terriers’ herding history and ability, given by Carl Ashby. A CD showing Kerry Blue Terriers herding was left with Bill Speck.

MOTION to recommend the addition of Kerry Blue Terriers in the AKC Herding Program to AKC Staff – Judy Hart – 2nd Karen Arends. Motion approved – unanimous. Bill Speck agreed to take this recommendation to the AKC Board of Directors.

Unfinished Business:

Performance Judges List on AKC Website:
All thee venues of this committee are working on finalizing known changes to the published performance judges list. Once Gerard Baudet, Maria Sacco and Karen Arends have the lists complete, they will send them to Lisa Carroll, who is overseeing this project. Once all three performance areas have been sent to Lisa, a follow-up letter will be provided by this committee.

Policy to Move a Breed Allowed Participation in “FEO” to “Full Status”:
Bill Speck explained that if a breed is eligible to participate in a performance event, they should be able to participate fully - except when a breed is in FSS, and they are allowed to participate for suffix titles only. At the October 2006 Board meeting, there will be a vote to change all FEO breeds to Full Status effective January 1, 2007. In the future there should be no For Exhibition Only breeds.

Combined Committees Meeting – HEC, Field Trial and Hunting Test Events, & Delegate Advocacy and Advancement:
Gerard Baudet attended a joint session meeting with the above committee chairs earlier this morning to form guidelines for a “pre-final” draft of the document Dennis Sprung presented at the meeting held with these three committees in June 2006. Dan Smyth is presently meeting with Dennis Sprung in order to finalize this procedure document.

New Business:

Herding Advisory Committee:
Judy Hart reported that the HAC was formed in mid-July. All nine parent clubs responded and Judy and Gerard are on this committee as representatives of the H-E-C Committee. Gerard was elected as Chair of the Herding Advisory Committee.

Bill Speck explained that there are currently four advisory committees in progress. The Herding Advisory Committee is to come up with recommendations, present them to AKC Staff, who will obtained herding community input and then the Herding-Earthdog-Coursing Committee will have a chance to review the information.

Coursing Advisory Committee:
Karen Arends reported that the CAC recommendations have been reformatted as requested by AKC Staff and will be sent to Bill Speck within the next few weeks.

Judging Conflict of Interest Policy:
Gerard Baudet explained that there are special situations involved with performance event judges and needs that are different from conformation events.

Claudia Frank, Border Collie Society of America, stated that this parent club has sent a request to the AKC Board asking for exceptions to this policy. Claudia voiced her concern that it takes many more years to gain knowledge to judge herding than conformation events in order to be an effective judge.

Steve Gladstone mentioned that the Board has received several requests for exceptions. Steve also explained that the purpose of this policy is to provide the “first step in trying to secure AKC name brand recognition and loyalty.” If the H-E-C Committee is going to send a personal request to the Board, it needs to be received prior to the submission deadline for the Board Book.

Leon Goetz, U.S. Australian Shepherd Association, stated that the Australian Shepherd Club of America would like judges to be able to come over to AKC, and that they are not as concerned about AKC judges officiating ASCA events.

MOTION to have the H-E-C Committee Secretary write a letter to the Board of Directors, apprising the Board of ramifications with the present assessment on specific organizations for the October Board Book – Don Adams – 2nd Karen Staudt-Cartabona. Motion approved – unanimous.

H-E-C Communication with Event Giving Clubs:
Don Adams led a discussion on ways to improve communication between this committee and the performance community we serve. Don would like to see strong two-way communications with event giving clubs and suggested an e-mail list with concerns on anything that would make these performance events better and showing that our committee is accessible. He also suggested distributing minutes of H-E-C Committee Meetings to the President, Secretary, Treasurer and Delegate from each event giving club.

Judy Hart stated she would like to give event giving clubs the idea that we can help them with problems that arise and a place to voice their concerns.

Don mentioned the Parent Club Committee has a similar list that has been very positive. He asked for criteria on who can be involved with such a list.

Nick Pisias, Chintimini Kennel Club, suggested that this type of list would be a good source to help cut down rumors.

Don Adams and Gerard Baudet agreed to help put this list together.

Miscellaneous:
Gerard Baudet reported that he had judged a blind handler in a herding test. AKC allowed a bell to be put around the dog’s neck and someone on a walkie talkie was telling the handler where the cones were placed. He mentioned that this handler did an outstanding job.

MOTION to adjourn– Maria Sacco – 2nd Judy Hart. Motion approved – unanimous. Meeting adjourned at 11:10 AM.

Respectfully submitted,
Karen Arends, Secretary


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